Interviews of Aro gTér lamas
From Steve James' Guru Viking podcast
Ep8: Ngakpa Chögyam
In this interview I am joined by Ngakpa Chögyam a blues loving, horse riding Ngakpa, who with his wife Khandro Déchen, is the Lineage Lama (principal teacher) of the Aro tradition, a tantric Buddhist house holder tradition.
Ngakpa Chögyam is the author of many books and today we discuss Wisdom Eccentrics. It is ‘a rare account of remarkable lamas in the final years of a lost era’ …which chronicles his education with Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche, ‘a highly reclusive master known for mercurial wrath and facility with Dzogchen’.
In the book we follow this 19-year old Englishman in 1971 into the heart of the Himalayas to seek the highest teachings from a notoriously wrathful and elusive Lama.
In this fascinating and candid conversation we delve into the themes of the book, including the culture clash of Dharmsala in the 70s, the true face of Crazy Wisdom and it’s abuses, how to access the realised state through the emotions themselves, and why Ngakpa Chögyam sees the crossover between the arts and Vajrayana as vitally important.
Ep16: English Dzogchen Masters - Ngakpa Chögyam & Khandro Déchen
In this episode I travel to the deepest Wales to meet Ngakpa Chögyam and Khandro Déchen, English Lamas and lineage holders in a non-celibate Tantric Buddhist order.
Ep39: Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen
Ngak'Chang Rinpoche And Khandro Déchen, the Lineage Lamas and principal teachers of the a tantric Buddhist Aro tradition house holder tradition, are my featured guests in this episode of the Guru Viking Podcast: Pandemic Series.
Ep65: Khandro Déchen - English Ngakma
In this episode I am joined by Khandro Déchen, Lineage Lama, alongside her husband and teaching partner Ngak’chang Rinpoche, of the Aro gTér tantric house holder tradition of Tibetan Buddhism.
We learn about Khandro Déchen’s upbringing and career in nursing, and how working with the sick and dying prepared her for her role as a spiritual teacher.
Khandro Déchen recounts her first meeting and subsequent courtship with the man who would later become both her teacher and husband, Ngak’chang Rinpoche.
We learn about Khandro Déchen’s practice in the hidden places of the Himalayas and her contact with great Lamas such as Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche .
Khandro Déchen also discusses power differentials between teacher and student, females teachers and the patriarchy, her love of Kum-Nye physical practices, and more.
Ep21: Bar-ché Dorje
In this episode I talk with Bar-ché Dorje, a Dutch Lama in the Aro gTer tradition of Tibetan Buddhism.
We discuss Bar-ché Dorje’s early interest in kebatinan, an Javanese esoteric tradition, that saw him plunge his hands into boiling oil and deflect strikes from poisonous machetes.
We find out how Bar-ché Dorje first made contact with Ngakchang Rinpoche, who was to become his tantric guru for over 25 years.
We hear stories of the infamous wrahthful teaching style of the wandering ngakpa Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche, with whom Bar-ché Dorje spend a great deal of time in Nepal.
Ep36: Bar-ché - Pandemic Edition
Bar-ché Dorje, a Dutch Lama in the Aro gTer tradition of Tibetan Buddhism, is my featured guest in this episode of the Guru Viking Podcast: Pandemic Series.
Ep43: Mé-tsal Wangmo - Vajra Romance
In this interview I am joined by Métsal Wangmo, a lama in the non-monastic Aro gTér lineage of Tibetan Buddhism.
We learn about Métsal’s explorations in meditation and shamanism, that led her to commit to life-long study with Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen.
We discuss how Métsal’s background in Steiner education influences her teaching style, and hear the story of the death of her first apprentice.
Métsal recounts meeting and falling in love with her now teaching-partner Jayür Dorje, after many years of singleness - and the adjustments that relationship demanded.
We also discuss portions of Métsal’s paper on vajra romance, including the importance of reconciling the inner male and female aspects.
EP45: Jagyür Dorje - Aro gTér, Trulkhor, and Drala Jong
In this interview I am joined by Jayür Dorje, a lama in the non-monastic Aro gTér lineage of Tibetan Buddhism and the partner of previous interview guest Métsal Wangmo.
We learn about Jayür’s early explorations in Zen and the Karma Kagyu traditions, before an ususual meeting in France changed his course to become a Nyingmapa.
We discuss Jayür’s early apprenticeship in the Aro gTer and explore his special interest in that lineage’s magical movements of trulkhor.
Jayür Dorje recounts his time in Nepal with Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche, and talks about the unique practice possibilities afforded by his relationship with Métsal’s Wangmo.
Ep59: Sang-gyé A-tsal - Santeria to Sang-gye
In this episode I am joined by Sang-gyé A-tsal, an ex-dancer, jazz club owner, and Brevet Lama in the Aro gTer lineage of Tibetan Buddhism.
We discuss Sang-gyé’s personal journey through Santeria, Sufism, and Vedanta before meeting her future teacher, Ngak’chang Rinpoche.
Sang-gyé discusses her transformative time spent in Nepal with Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche, and recounts her completion of the esoteric practice of phowa under the guidance of Jomo Sampel.
We learn about how to practice Vajra Romance outside of a partnership, and explore Sang-gyé’s passion for the physical practices of Kum Nye.
Ep234: Dzogchen Valley - Aro gTér Sangha
In this episode I travel to deepest of Wales to visit Drala Jong, the headquarters and retreat centre of the Aro gTér sect of Tibetan Buddhism. I first interviewed the leaders of the sect, Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen, several years ago in an intimate interview in their home during which they recounted the origin of their treasure-revealed lineage and discussed subjects such as crazy wisdom, mahasiddhas, and compassion as appreciation.
In this episode, Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen give a tour of the grounds of Drala Jong, discuss the esoteric geomancy of the site, and reveal the methods used to identify and propitiate the local spirit of the land. Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen detail the methods and practices of the Aro gTér, guide practice sessions in the Dzogchen meditation of sky gazing and other techniques, and tell stories of their lamas such as Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche, Chimé Rigdzin Rinpoche, Dudjom Rinpoche, and more.
I also meet the ordained caretakers of the centre, witness the sangha in their daily rituals of chanting and song, and receive a lesson in their physical movement system of sKum-mNye from lineage specialist Sang-gyé A-tsal.
Ep264: Vajrayana & Performance Art - Naljorma Tsül'dzin
Tsül'dzin recalls her childhood in rural Ireland, early cultural and occult explorations, substance abuse and recovery, and her international career as a performance artist under the name “Kira O’Reilly”.
Tsül'dzin traces her history with the Aro gTer sect of Tibetan Buddhism, from first encounter to full ordination, reveals her religious robes and the reactions they provoke, and explains her ongoing fascination with the Great Stupa in Kathmandu.
Tsül'dzin also considers the intersection of art and religious expression, the tension between practice and performance, ritual and spectacle, and reflects on her long-standing work with Serbian conceptual and performance artist Marina Abramović.
Forthcoming events with Ngak’chang Rinpoche, Khandro Déchen, Bar-ché Dorje, Mé-tsal Wangmo, Ja'gyür Dorje or Sang-gyé A-tsal:
Open Teaching: Roaring Silence
Discovering the Nature of the Mind
Teaching with Ngak’chang Rinpoche & Khandro Déchen.Lam Rim Buddhist Centre In-person only
US Visit
Apprentice and public retreats
New Year's Zoom Retreat 2025 with Ngak’chang Rinpoche & Khandro Déchen.New York/New Jersey In-person only
Morning meditations
Meditation group with Bar-ché Dorje.Finland Drala Thang Helsinki In-person and online
More pages by Ngak’chang Rinpoche, Khandro Déchen, Bar-ché Dorje, Mé-tsal Wangmo, Ja'gyür Dorje or Sang-gyé A-tsal:
Introduction to Khandro-Pawo Nyida Mélong Gyüd
Karma
The Personal Police State
Kindness
the power of the awakened mind warrior
Books by Ngak’chang Rinpoche, Khandro Déchen, Bar-ché Dorje, Mé-tsal Wangmo, Ja'gyür Dorje or Sang-gyé A-tsal:
Moving Being
Introducing the 35 sKu-mNyé exercises
Rays of the Sun
Illustrating reality: certainty, transcending causality, kindness, confidence
Roaring Silence
Discovering the Mind of Dzogchen